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The Huntington Bicycle Club, NY

Date: 11/27/2024
Subject: Folks on Spokes November, 2024
From: Huntington Bicycle Club



              Message From the President
                        Happy Thanksgiving to all!
  • December 1 begins the new ride year for tallying Ride Leader points.
An order for Ride Leader Jerseys will be placed December 2nd, so check how many points you have!
Remember, rides are posted year round, so please join in when you feel the weather is comfortable  enough for you to ride. 
  • Many, many thanks to John for planning the HBC Autumn Party.
Kudos to Allan and Susan for procuring so many great raffle gifts. It was a huge success.
More thanks to Anthony for getting the venue and being the great host.
  • Save the date: July 13, 2025 Gold Coast East 
  • Bruce Feinberg's memorial ride on November 3rd was really beautiful and aptly dedicated to him. The route was one of his favorites, going up some of his most quirky and annoying hills, of course! Many stories were shared as we rode and then stopped at Panera in Glen Cove. 12 riders participated as well as his son, Jacob-riding Bruce's Serotta (and suitably kicking our butts going up Tiffany!) Pictures of the group and of his son are below.
  • Lastly, we deeply mourn the passing of longtime HBC member, George Fabian.
Monthly Club meetings resume in March, in addition to the annual Ride Leader Meeting.
Dates will be posted on the Website and shared through email reminders.
Folks on Spokes will continue to be published through the winter.
Have a great holiday season, and I hope to see many of you at one of our starting points for rides in the coming months.
  Karen
The following are the HBC 2025 election results. Thank you to for your continued time and service to the club.

President: Karen Gellert
VP: John Greene
Secretary: Pam Rogers
Treasurer: Anthony Oliveri

Board of Directors:
Sal Levy 
Steve Labiner

Existing Board members:
Scott Gross
Allan Pearlman

Webmaster: Malachy OConnor
         George Fabian             September 5, 1939 – November 15, 2024
It is with deep sorrow that we announce the passing of George Fabian on November 15, 2024, at the age of 85.
George is survived by his devoted wife, Deanna, with whom he shared 63 years of marriage; daughters Christa Pius and Marisa Baldwin, son-in-law Joe Pius and grandchildren Andrew, Christopher, Michael, Thomas, and Madeline.
Known for his warmth, humor, and vibrant spirit, George was a passionate cyclist and proud member of the Huntington Bicycle Club. He found joy, peace, and connection through his bike rides and cherished friendships in the club. George was also an avid photographer, capturing the world and those he loved within it.
Above all, George's love for Deanna was a true testament to partnership. Together, they traveled to seven continents, experiencing life side by side. His love for her was a gift that will remain in the hearts of all who witnessed it.
As we mourn his passing, we take comfort in the lasting impact George had on all who knew him.
His light, love, and humor will continue to guide us.
Rest in peace, George. Your light will never fade.

To honor George's memory, we have received approval to dedicate and install a bench adjacent
to the Bethany Church parking lot in George's memory. The Bethany Church parking lot is where the Crankin' rides meet on weekdays.
The cost of the bench is $1,100.00, and we are relying on our collective generosity to help create this lasting monument in his honor that we will see before and after each ride.
With your help we anticipate having enough to fund the cost for the bench. We welcome any contribution you feel comfortable making.
In addition, we will be adding a plaque onto the bench.
Although not finalized, the inscription on the plaque may read:
"Miles of memories, never forgotten."
     In Memory of George Fabian
If you would like to contribute, you can send a check made out to:
Art Causin, 356 Altessa Blvd. Melville NY 11747.
Any amount you feel comfortable donating will be gladly appreciated.

Thank you for helping us create this lasting reminder of our love for George.

            How to Safely do an Idaho Stop

 

Rolling stops are legal in some states, but to be safe, you need to understand the potential dangers and some necessary skills.

When you roll up to a stop sign, do you come to a complete stop, put a foot down, look both ways, and then start rolling again—even if there’s no traffic? Or, do you slow down and look in both directions so that, if you see the intersection is clear, you can simply continue moving. Guess what? Under certain conditions, this rolling stop is safer than a full stop, even though it is illegal in most states. 

This is often called an “Idaho Stop,” for the state that, in 1982, first legalized the move. We spoke to a bike advocate and a cycling lawyer to get the skinny on what you need to know about how to safely approach a stop sign.

The Definition of an Idaho Stop 

Also known as a rolling stop or a “stop as yield,” the Idaho Stop law says that bicyclists can yield, rather than stop, at stop signs and proceed when safe. After the law passed, bicyclist injuries from traffic crashes in Idaho declined by 14.5 percent the following year, according to 2010 study.

Not to be outdone, Delaware, in 2017, adopted a similar law, although this one is called the “Delaware Yield.” According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA), both the Idaho Stop and the Delaware Yield are safer and more conducive to the flow of traffic. 

Why Idaho Stops Are Safer

A 2024 Transportation Research study found that doing a rolling stop rather than stopping entirely was safer not just for cyclists, but also for car drivers, too. “When you require a cyclist to stop at intersections, it increases the points and times of conflict with other road users,” Dave Shellnutt, the Toronto-based Biking Lawyer, tells Bicycling. “A cyclist stopping at a stop sign on a residential street with stops on every block can cause motorists to do some very reckless things.”

The full stop also causes much more congestion and can lead drivers to becoming irritated with cyclists on the road, says Shellnutt. 

According to the Transportation Research: Part C study, “The primary motivations cited for passing Bicycle Rolling Stop laws either focus on the conservation of momentum for the cyclist, i.e., reduced intersection delay, or on the reduction of exposure to crash risk in the intersection due to increased speed of travel across the intersection, i.e., improved safety.”

In other words, it’s safer for cyclists to continue riding than to stop. “It’s a safer way of riding, being able to carry their momentum through an intersection,” Alison Dewey, director of education at the League of American Bicyclists, tells Bicycling. “Oftentimes, at intersections, if the cyclist is in front of a car, if they take a little bit longer to get up to speed, it can put them at a higher risk of having conflict with other faster moving traffic.”

The full stop also causes much more congestion and can lead drivers to becoming irritated with cyclists on the road, says Shellnutt. 

According to the Transportation Research: Part C study, “The primary motivations cited for passing Bicycle Rolling Stop laws either focus on the conservation of momentum for the cyclist, i.e., reduced intersection delay, or on the reduction of exposure to crash risk in the intersection due to increased speed of travel across the intersection, i.e., improved safety.”

In other words, it’s safer for cyclists to continue riding than to stop. “It’s a safer way of riding, being able to carry their momentum through an intersection,” Alison Dewey, director of education at the League of American Bicyclists, tells Bicycling. “Oftentimes, at intersections, if the cyclist is in front of a car, if they take a little bit longer to get up to speed, it can put them at a higher risk of having conflict with other faster moving traffic.”

States Where Idaho Stops Are Legal

Several states aside from Idaho and Delaware now allow the Stop-as-Yield for cyclists, including Arkansas, Minnesota, Colorado, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Oregon, plus Washington, D.C. Of course, if you are going out for a ride, check the laws where you will travel

Remember, a red light is not the same as as a stop sign. Some states (Arkansas, Idaho, Oklahoma, and Utah) do allow cyclists to use a stop light as a stop sign, and thus, you can yield when safe, according to the NHTSA

“Having a stop-as-yield law in place for cyclists shows that the municipality and jurisdiction are concerned with road safety,” says Shellnutt. “It means that they’re using reports, statistics, and data to inform what kind of policies they put forward and in laws that they have. If you have a bunch of persuasive evidence that the rolling stop reduces collisions, which we do, then you institute it.”

Stay Aware and Follow the Law 

Remember Bicycle Rolling Stop laws are never permission to “just keep on rolling.” If you see a stop sign, you absolutely need to look around for cars, bikes, and people. If there is traffic, you don’t automatically have the right of way. 

Likewise, none of the experts advise you to roll through a stop sign if you live in a state or country without a Stop-as-Yield law in place. If a cop sees you, they likely won’t be impressed when you mention the Transportation Research: Part C study to show that you’re actually prioritizing safety

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Shellnutt adds, though, that when you’re torn between following the rules and protecting yourself by riding safely, opt for riding safely. “We want to follow the rules of the road, but safety’s got to be paramount,” he adds.

How to Safely Do a Rolling Stop 

The safe way to do a rolling stop is to slow down considerably. Hit the brakes and slow to an almost-stop, and, as you do, assess the situation. Are there cars behind you? Coming toward you? Already at the stop sign to the right of you? Or is it entirely clear?

“Look both ways and make sure that there is no oncoming traffic,” Dewey says. “That’s a key part. It’s not just blowing through a stop sign and not paying attention to oncoming traffic or traffic that is in front of [you] or behind [you]. It’s just a way for [you] to kind of maintain [your] momentum going through an intersection that is not crowded and not experiencing any oncoming traffic.”

Dewey also suggests trying to make eye contact with each driver—this helps ensure that they see you.

You Can Get a Ticket for an Illegal Rolling Stop 

Of course, rolling through a stop in a city where it isn’t legal can get you into trouble. “We see police using cyclists rolling stops as a way to ticket and target those cyclists here in Toronto,” says Shellnutt.

If this happens, Shellnutt advises cyclists not to hand over your driver’s license. You aren't required to carry it while riding in the United States or Canada. If you do give the cop your license, you run the risk that your ticket will be made out as if you’re operating a motor vehicle—which could affect your insurance premiums. Of course, don’t get into an altercation with a police officer. Take the ticket and be on your way: Don’t argue while on the side of the road.

If you get a ticket, take it to court. Shellnutt says that too often, people just pay the ticket. However, if you actually show up to court (often you can do this via Zoom), you can typically argue it down or get it completely expunged. 

Don’t Allow Kids to Roll Through Stop Signs

“When we think of the rolling stop, we think of adults using it,” Dewey says. “It’s not something that we recommend teaching kids, because it’s harder for a child who hasn’t experienced driving a vehicle to know how drivers will react. So we always teach kids to stop at a stop sign.” 

E-Bike Riders Should Practice Extra Caution

In some states, both Class 1 and Class 2 electric bicycles are governed by the same regulations as traditional bicycles, but the laws are not consistent. To find out the exact laws for your state (or a state in which you plan to travel), head to PeopleforBikes

Whatever the law, understand that e-bike riders should be more cautious than traditional cyclists when approaching a rolling stop. You travel faster than other riders, so you need to slow down more aggressively as you approach a stop sign. At the same time, Dewey adds, because the e-bike can get back up to speed faster than a traditional bike, it’s not as big of a deal to actually fully stop and put a foot down.

 

 


 Timberpoint, smiling because there was a great tailwind getting there.
Crying on the way back: 20-30 MPH headwinds!
Susan and John shared pictures from their Boat/bike trip through Germany.
What, no helmet?

Happy November and December Birthday Wishes to our members               
JACQUELINE S PARACHE
November 23
Rock A Busto
November 25
Dina Caffrey
November 25
HOWARD ROTHENBERG
November 25
Laurie Schwartz
November 26
Todd Jusas
November 26
Steven Klein
November 27
Erik Moore
November 29
Andre Wong
December 1
Paul A Pepe
December 1
 
Tenk Tenk Chee
December 4
Scott Knipfing
December 5
 

 
 
 
Craig Winkler
December 7
Deborah A Montick
December 10
Frank DelBalso
 December 10
 Victoria C Strobellane
 December 12
Ellen M Furuya
December 12
lisa felderman
December 14
Michael Megna
December 14
Matthew Zullo
December 15
Cammi Farash
December 18
Justin Firmes
December 19
John Siedlecki
December 19
Georgios Balanos
December 21
   Above-Twin Serottas: Jacob Feinberg riding dad's Prologue
Below-a stop at Panera on the ride dedicated to Bruce, wearing the Jersey with his initials on the collar.

Enjoying the food and drink as well as the Raffle Gifts at the Autumn Party
Thank you to John and Anthony!

Steve Markowitz's last ride before moving south.
You know, he's always the youngest one on a ride!
Could Balance be the biggest predictor of longevity?

Club Jerseys, the perfect Chanukah and Christmas gift!

Men's Jerseys are available in the store. Women's jerseys need to be ordered, so please place your orders, ladies! 

All jerseys are $70. There is a $7 charge if you need it mailed.
Go to the HBC Store on the menu and order from there. With this order, there are now jerseys available for immediate pick up. Check the website for the available sizes in stock.
Men's M, L and XL are available now.

Primal Jersey size charts are below

Men’s Sizes.

Size

Waist

Chest

Height

XS

26-29"

33-35"

Up to 64"

SM

29-32"

35-38"

64-68"

MD

32-35"

39-41"

66-70"

LG

35-38"

42-43"

68-72"

XL

38-42"

44-46"

70-76"

XL

38-42"

44-46"

70-76"

2X

42-46"

47-49"

74"+

3X

46-51"

50-52"

74"+

4X

51-54"

52-55"

74"+

 

Women’s Sizes

Size

Waist

Hips

Height

Chest

XXS

<24"

<34"

Up to 62"

<32"

XS

24-25"

34-35"

Up to 62"

32-33"

SM

25-27"

35-37"

61-65"

33-35"

MD

27-29"

37-39"

64-68"

35-37"

LG

29-32"

39-42"

67-71"

37-40"

XL

32-35"

42-45"

70-73"

40-43"

2X

35-37"

45-47"

71-74"

43-45"

3X

37-39"

46-48"

71-74"

45-47"

4X

38-40"

47-49"

71-74"

46-48"

 



HBC Club Meeting Minutes, 11/6/2024

 

President Karen Gellert called the meeting to order 7:48 p.m.

Celebrated Scott Gross’ birthday with a song and a pastry

Thank you to John Greene and Anthony Oliveri for their work on the autumn party

 

Minutes - Karen Gellert asked everyone to review on the screen

Motion to accept - Scott Gross and Steve Labiner

 

Board has approved paying Bethany Church donation for use of their parking lot 2*/week all year for Crankin’ Group; Karen will reach out to get the instructions for how to pay

 

Bruce Feinberg ride 11/3/2024; his wife and son were at the event and really appreciated that we did the ride

Steve Markowitz - member since 1993 but he is moving to Florida

 

Pam thanked everyone for pitching in and taking the meeting notes when she has been traveling and she thanked the club for the card when her mother’s husband passed away. 

Anthony Oliveri took the minutes at the last meeting

 

Treasurer Anthony Oliveri reviewed the financial statements as of 11/6/2024 YTD; net income $1,848.62

Volunteer Party cost is rolled up into Gold Coast Supplies - cost was around $2,000

The autumn party basically was a break even

 

Karen has men’s size club jerseys available; she encouraged people to buy a jersey

 

Sal Levy - membership is about the same as last month at 310 members; 2 new members

 

Steven Labiner - Gold Coast - set for Sunday, July 13, 2025; will try to duplicate and maybe add a little more mileage

 

Larry Denbaum - Ride Leader points - he tallies every month based on when the report is submitted to him; he had made a mistake on Susan’s points and he corrected it

 

John Greene and Susan Farren shared slides of their Boat Bike trip in Germany, Luxembourg and France; Tony and Ursula were on the Boat Bike trip as well

 

Raffle Drawings:

Tom Fierro won the bike pump donated by Brands for the autumn party

Jeff Goldstein won the $50 for 50/50

 
Call to adjourn: Karen, Scott seconded
8:55. PM
 
Respectfully Submitted,
Pam Roger, HBC Secretary

 

 

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